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"It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. The women testified last week. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. I have never seen anything this egregious., Requests for Proposals and Qualifications, Families to Amend California's Three Strikes (FACTS), life without possibility of parole (LWOP), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), What California should do with people convicted of violent felonies, The Folsom 6 who stood up for Yogi are vindicated. Walmart woe. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. There was widespread speculation that the sisters were shot in an honor killing a practice in some cultures in which men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. Mark and Patricia McCloskey That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. What a lame article. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Patricia What a contrived case! That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. It was Patricias hair no question. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. How is it that these women are paroled? They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. You seem to have a fragile ego. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. I dont even know its Christmas.. Ms. On June 14, 1989, Patricia Wright and her 7-year-old son, Alfey, were riding in a car driven by family friend Lawrence Slaughter. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Yaser Said was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of his two daughters Amina and Sarah Said in 2008. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Patricia And Mark McCloskey Who Waved Guns At BLM Protesters That poor child and that poor woman. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Claps! Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Animals would have for sure. Stop. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. And she called 911. False. I didnt believe it. "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. The case was eventually abandoned. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Patricia Kopta Had Been Missing Since 1992. She Was Found in The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. Patricia Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. 3 Chicago officers acquitted of covering up for colleague who shot On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. She also will never get to see them get married. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Emailus. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. Phone records dont lie.) Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. Youre absolutely right!! Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. Oklahoma Incest Case: Mom Married Kids - Peoplemag Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Lead Prosecutor Lauren Black called Said a true narcissist who believed he was smarter than everybody else. Both were deceased. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. One of them from his ex-wife, Patricia Owens. Conflicting versions. This story has been shared 114,982 times. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Ex-wife slams devil Texas father Yaser Said over honor killings of According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Amina Said Mother Patricia Owens Said Charged With This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Patricia Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Larry Wrights sentence was reduced to only two years in prison with five years of parole. Nope. Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. Said showed no emotion as the verdict was read. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Youll have to make do with what you see here. What evidence is there she actually left the state? But none of those charges ever stuck. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. Said which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. 2}Wo).hf}~g={g::y]peb78R,;>59_'cuB F4QyU&9G=#0 The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. Stop it.. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. I hope she rots in hell. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Had there been a switch? WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. 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She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. Missouri's Governor Pardons The St. Louis Lawyers Who Waved neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. Sorry not sorry. Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. They told him that if he testified against his sister, Patricia, he would be able to get out of prison sooner. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. in journalism from the University of Southern California. . Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. Although I would have liked it to be death! Prosecutor pounds away. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. Patricia Wright is a prisoner in Central California Womens Facilitys Nursing Unit coping with an extraordinary array of challenges. This woman was obsessed and jealous. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. None. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. (Nope. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? He says he "feared for his life" and left the girls in the cab alive as he ran away. You should be ashamed of yourself. Her brother Larrys false confession was all the LAPD needed to put Patricia behind bars. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. Jerry Browns office. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. You murdered your girls," she said. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. Remembering Patricia Cole, former copy editor at NPR : NPR Thank you Kerry. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. She had money put aside. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. SHAME ON THEM. And I have absolutely no sympathy. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial But I suppose you havent a clue about that. she didnt need to . Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? She is a D-FW native with a B.A. Because of these two prior offences, Patricia was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole under Californias Three Strikes Law. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. Gail Gattrell, the sisters great-aunt, described the deaths as an honor killing which are often carried about by a relative who believes a woman went against conservative Islamic values on love or marriage. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. Hoist by my own petard! "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. Armed homeowners Mark and Patricia McCloskey stood in front of their house in June 2020, confronting protesters who were marching to St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson's For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. (A good point. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Some people are just monsters. Patricia Owens, The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. It seems so, according to you. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. Oh my God. 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. Lawyers pleaded their cases in closing arguments to 12 jurors and three alternates for nearly two hours Tuesday morning. . DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. Then you claim this is an opinion. Special prosecutor Patricia Brown Holmes said, even though her side didn't win any convictions, the case still helped make police more accountable. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. "Clive was a skilful and inventive actor with wide experience, as his successful career proved," she said. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally.

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